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Louise Campbell-Anthony: All right, you guys, so we're gonna start our Union State Assembly and Guidebook Committee meeting.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Today is July 12th, 2026. So I'm going to show my screen here. Now.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Mithi, did you get our request on the last meeting? We asked if you could take section three.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Do you remember? Yes.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, request.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Okay, I saw the request, and I will be very honest with you, I haven't had the energy.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I'm just kind of still kind of coming back online and just remember that I've been deprived of oxygen for a while. Okay. So with that, I will, I will catch up. What is section three? I know you sent it.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Section 3.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh, it should be… I didn't even put it on the thing.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Oh.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I'll have to go through my emails, but if you'll put it on the.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Click on the link.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh yeah, I can click. Oh, I might, let me do it that way so y'.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Oh.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: So this is our document server link.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh! And… Let me pull up the guidebook outline.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Mmhm.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: And section three is the law that governs.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: These areas about the jurisdictions of law.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Oh, okay.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Okay, I'm happy to do whatever y'all want me to do. That's fine.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: And of course, you can change the outline any way you see fit as you start writing. It's just those ideas came from what we had already put together in our original outline. I just put it in bulleted form.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Did you come up with the idea for this section?

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: based on some information that you can share with me.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: like, what made you. What made. How did you make up this outline? Basically is.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: So the way I made up this outline is I was thinking as we're trying to get the people, the sovereigns to construct the American government.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: So the outline first starts start with sovereignty so that people will know that they're sovereign, know who they are.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: And then to know what type of government you're trying to form.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: And then if you're gonna form this, you're forming this Republican form of government, but you need to know in your Republican form of government, in the way that it's designed, there are many, many jurisdictions.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: There are many laws.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: So…

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: You have to know what they are. So that's why I got that next to the Republican form of government right after each other. Yes, Neeti.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Okay, my question is.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: when you say sovereignty, what do you mean? Specifically, because there are many kinds of sovereignty.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I can tell y'all on the podcast that Anna explained there's very many different kinds of sovereignty.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: I'll get into that when I go with my section. I took number one.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: So I'll go over that here in a minute to show y'all what I've done so far this week. That's what I've been working on

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: And then, reclaiming the American counties, then now, now that, now that this is the foundation, the first three are the, like, the foundation of thought of what we're doing here.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: And then section 4, 5, and 6, I believe, is really getting to the nitty-gritty of how to construct these things we call assemblies.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Basically.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: And how we have to go back, go from.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Unlawfully converted to declare ourselves who we are and what this assembly thing looked like.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: That's what 4, 5, and 6 is about. I stopped at 4, because we only had 4 volunteers, really, basically.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Mmhm.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Well, I think also.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The other… the other portions will…

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: come out of these, so we're really not… you know, we… we don't know where we're going from here yet, you know what I'm saying? So we gotta get these ones done.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I agree. Yeah, I was gonna say we can't work on too many of 'em at the same time because they are all, interrelated.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And relax.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Kevin.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The way that I did the file server, if you notice it says section 1, 2, 3, 4, like that, right?

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Okay.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Those are the sections that she's got in that document. And what we want to do, or what Louisa's talking about, we agreed to on last meeting, is any of your research, or wherever you're getting your information from.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: We'd like to put them in those sections to use as references, okay? So we can say, when we're writing in our documents, we can say.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: This is what… What we're doing, and we got that from here.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know what I'm saying? That information, right? So we have backing on why we're saying what we're saying, right?

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Go ahead, Luis, you're better at explaining.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, so remember when — so Neeti, you asked where I got this from and all that. Remember when we started, we had this rough draft here?

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: So 4, 5, and 6 is when we really get into the structuring part, and then 7 and 8.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: It's really, we're gonna have to be thinking about 7 and 8.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: And that's actually getting into how we actually implementing things in our local communities. That's what that's getting into.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: So that… that's gonna come at that end, but right now, we said we'll just start with the first 4, and then we'll move to 5 and 6, and then we'll move to 7 and 8. And then we might change something and add something else, or whatever, but that's the thought.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: And so I took these right here and just put up in that, bulleted format that you see.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: That I just showed you. Oh, what happened?

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: May I ask the question then? So, if I click on Section 1, in that whatever list that you had originally, this one, then that shows me

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: You're those things that you put. Is that correct?

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Section one will be all the things that I write about section one.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Which I will go over to in a little bit what I've started.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And, and your source documents or whatever is there, is that what you're saying?

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Both of you have got logins to be able to put stuff here. Now, if you don't want to do it, like Louise says, I don't want to be uploading files and all that, and that's fine. Just send them to me, and I'll… you just tell me, put this in section 2 or 3 or whatever, and then I'll just upload it there.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It's like, if you look into right now, I put a lot of documents in there that I'm going to use as references.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: First off, okay, so I pulled these off because they're based on Section 2.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And I haven't really highlighted anything in them yet, but those are my working documents, right, that I'm going to try to use to help prove my points.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, if you don't want to upload your stuff to 3, and you just say… email them to me and say, Rocky, can you put this in 3? I'll throw it up in 3 for you.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: to do something special to do that?

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: No, I don't. You… the login I gave you, you can do that.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I'd rather just do it, because for me, that just gives me more work to have to tell you to do something.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right, well…

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I'd rather just, when I, when I, the way I like to work is.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Like…

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: What you did, where you already just start accumulating stuff, I would want to be able to start accumulating a bunch of stuff and organizing it and whatever. Now, maybe I might do that in my own folder and then give it to you and be like, here, put, put this up there.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It it's the the login I gave you for the file server will allow you into this area and you and you there's just a file thing on the screen. You click on it and you just copy files back and forth. So it's that easy.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Okay.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So if you want to do it, you can just copy them there. If you don't want to do it, you can do it like you're saying, work on your computer, and at one time say, Rocket Key, can you push all these up? And I can do that too. It's whatever.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Okay.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But it…

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: What we're gonna do is eventually use this file server in these sections to use them as references to our documents, right?

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Mmhm.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: This is our supporting evidence file. All right, well, I'm going to keep my own file, but then I'll upload it up here.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Right before our meetings every week, or something like that, because…

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Great.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Whatever, I'm just trying to give everybody a place. Now, what Luis is going to hear is the public side of that. This requires nobody to log in, no nothing, you can't change nothing, you only can view what's here, okay?

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, that's just our link.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yes.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Anybody can go see.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: They can't, but they can.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Who's anybody?

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Well, yeah, anybody. If later date we want to show people how we put it together, that would be the link they get.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Mmhm.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: But you have…

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: This is just a web URL that anybody can get to.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Mmhm.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: In addition to this public link, he gave you a login to get inside to upload and download stuff.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Okay.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Mmhm

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: All right, so for mine, I've got, I got inspired this week, guys, so I'm gonna show you what I got.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: So here, I translated my sovereignty part to

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: actually build it all out, and I changed the title to The Nature of Sovereignty vs. The Nature of Citizenship, is what I changed the title to.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: I put my sub headlines, my sub sub headlines, and all of this.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: I'm giving you all these documents that you all are going to be able to go read, because now…

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: with what I've done already, it's time for you guys to do your input and critiquing and all that kind of stuff.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: So this is my rough draft document with all of my reference notes, my reference links inside the document itself. So that paragraph goes directly to that link. So you can see why I said what I said or where I got it from.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Now, I told you all before how I like to take… I go to search Annavon Rights, and I copy and paste what she said. I do that a lot.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: so that people don't question if what I'm saying is correct. I'm saying exactly what she said.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: And for me to know… that I'm saying it right.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: And not reinterpreting what she meant.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: So I do that a lot.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: And you will see that in here.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, I'm going to give you this document. Now, we talked about

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: us actually writing the document and then do a second document with the sources. So not inside here because it might be difficult to read. So I did both versions.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: This is the version with it all inside the document.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: And then I did a version where I took it out and I actually formatted it and everything, so I'm going to show you that.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, Section 1…

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: I actually just put the document together. We talked about the table of contents, so I can click on this and it goes to the nature of sovereignty.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: And I can click on any of these links and it goes back to my table of contents.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: So you talked about the different types of sovereignty. I also talk about the different type of sovereignty. There's three levels of sovereignty. There's also dependent sovereignty. So I talked about all of that.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: I also thought, hey, it'd be great.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: to have a key point For the people to read before they actually get into the document.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, I'm thinking, hey, and this is a question to you guys, I really think it would be good to have, the fir- after your table of contents, so everybody's document, get it your table of com- get a table of contents, but after that, write a key point of what you want them to capture

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: As they're reading through.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: your, section. That's what I put here. So after my key points, then, I went into Section 1 and wrote the thing.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Now… I did that, And then, but then on top of that, what I did this week is.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: I… I want this whole…

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: guidebook to be about that reconstruction roadmap. Remember the reconstruction roadmap I did in episode 8?

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: We're reconstructing the whole… reconstructing the whole thing!

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: So… I thought, well, let me do an introduction. Rocky did an introduction.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Before, and he sent it to us earlier. But I said, well, let me, let me, let me do an introduction because now I had Tim, which is a graphic artist, take my reconstruction roadmap and professionally render it.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: And I thought I'm gonna put that in the first section in an introduction now to set everybody's mind up of what we are about to do. I'm gonna… we're going to tell them how to reconstruct this whole thing.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: In the introduction, I gave them the reconstruction mode roadmap. So let me and then I formatted it all. So let me show you what I did.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: oh, the bibliography. I call it a bibliography. This is my second version. I just put all my sources in one… one document, so now you can read

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: the document, It has no sources.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: And then all the sources. So we talked about doing it that way.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Now, my introduction is this.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: I formatted the whole nice thing.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: This is the beginning of the document. I usually have acknowledgements telling people names of people who did that, names of people, you know, who were whatever. Our names will go in this acknowledgement section.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: And then the table of contents for the whole thing. So this is where our 10 sections will go. Just the blanket 10 ones. No subtopics, none of that.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Here's my short introduction of what this whole thing is about.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: This whole guidebook is about.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: You all get to read all this and give me your input and cut and scratch this and put that.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: But here is my roadmap.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: This is all in the introduction. They need to understand this roadmap to know what we're about to do.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: I have to separate it because it's, it's a big roadmap. So I have to separate it like this, but I'm gonna show you what, how it actually looks. And that's my introduction to the whole guidebook.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: The Reconstruction Roadmap that I first did, you remember this Reconstruction Roadmap and Resurgence Project, Resurgence 8? So I told Tim, I said, Tim, I need you to give me a rendition of this, but professionally look, professional looking. So we came up, we worked together, and we got this.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: This is the official roadmap.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: that I'm using for this project. And that's what you saw in the introduction.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: You all get to look at this roadmap and say.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Change this word to this. We're not gonna… I don't think it's constructed that way. We're gonna… your job is to look at this to make sure all the little pieces to our whole government is represented correctly.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: That is what I did this week.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Now, the other thing is, we wanted it simple and all that. I don't know how simple we're gonna get, but this… my… this… this section right here is 15 pages long.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: This is the problem I had with doing the detailed research to claim your inheritance.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: We wanted things to be shorter. So you get to look at this and say, well, can I, can we shorten this and see how we can shorten this?

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay? So that, that is what I did for Section 1. And my Section 1 is done as far as

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: I can think of what to do with it.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: I got all the thoughts on this page.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Good job.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Thanks a lot, Louise. Like, look at what we have to try to stand up to now. Look at that. Oh, Lord. She set the standard.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Alright, I love it. I mean.

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Rohit Bali: It's.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Really, really good. I can't wait to be able to really look at the roadmap, like read it properly and all that kind of stuff.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Well, dang, girl!

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Yeah. Okay. And what is this written what did what did you do that in?

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Word?

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Okay, because these are Pdfs here. Now, I would like for you to maintain the Pdf format for to keep it locked up like how you did it originally. But can we request a word document for us to put our suggestions in, or corrections, or anything like that for review. But not. I don't want to mess up

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Like something that you did, which I.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: would rather you keep it locked up like a PDF, but then give us, in addition to, like, a editable Word document that we can download, that we can do, and I could put, like, Neeti's edits, or Neeti's critiques, or I don't know, whatever, something.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: No.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: I'll send you the doc form and the PDF form of all of these documents.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I just need, I just need the doc form because the PDF one you got up on the, on his thing, right? On the,

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I use one.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Open… open office, so if you open up in something else, it may change how I formatted it all.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Okay, for the people who don't have work, I use Word, so it's fine.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Yeah, whatever. Okay, whatever works for the majority of the people. That's fine.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: and then… okay.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Now it, I just.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: You want me to work on my one while I'm also editing your one?

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: What'd you say?

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I said, do you want me to work on my one while also editing your one?

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Well, what do you all think? Do you all wanna wait till, wait to start the editing part till after you finish your.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: No, because I really love what you did, because I need to learn this part so that I can think about my part, because

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I didn't know what you're calling sovereignty. So, I mean, I mean, in the sense of, I want to know where you're at with it. And this is the moment where

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: if I may make this suggestion is you wrote that you were 1st So you're done.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And then done in the sense that you did your one. Now we get to go over your thing. And work on that. Rocky gets to think about his. I get to think about mine. We can kind of be working on it. But if we just keep presenting it in order here.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: and we all are just focused on one until we're all happy with one being done, and then we come back. And I mean, that doesn't mean Rocky's not working on his 2, or I'm not working on my 3, or whatever. But does that make sense? What I'm saying, like all our minds are

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Like, we're gonna keep coming back to this one in the meeting until we are all like, okay, it's on lock, and then that's done, and then…

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: we're… then we're helping Rocky ask… like, he's gonna present however he's gonna present, I'll present how… but we do all of one, all of two, all of three, while we're also kind of simultaneously in the background working on our different ones, is that…

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, so I think we talked about that 'cause we wanted to, we wanted to take the, the document, the section and send it to Anna.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: As we're doing it, we ain't gonna send the whole 10 at once.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: 100%. So once we lock up one.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Then I can print it on this side.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Sip it to Anna.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Have her red line it.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: and return it.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And then we bring it back.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, well.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: By that time, hopefully we'll have two to send or, you know, we just keep, that sounds good.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Mmhm.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I think that sounds good. I think we could finish it.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Before the end of the year that way too.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Hoping so.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I mean, I don.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: This is amazing.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: One… the one thing I want to talk about… Luis, go back to the

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The guide on, you know, the sections 1, 2, 3, 4, like that.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: First part.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: This one, this one.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: No, no, no. The part where you're saying which each one of us was picking a section.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yes, sir.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: To the document. No, no, no.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The one that's on the file server now.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The PDF there, the guidebook outline?

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And if you think that it needs to be formatted here a little different on how we're going to work it, what we decided is that you would come up with your changes that you'd want to come into this document.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: you would send those to Luis, and Luis is the only one editing this document, so we have one person looking at it. You know what I'm saying? So we have one copy, basically, of where we're at.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, like, if there's anything in this section of 3 that you think that it should be worded different, or it should be another, you know, add another section in it, or whatever, right? You would write that up, send it to Luis.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Then we can talk about it. Luis would then edit this document and send it back to us, so we'll know what we're working on.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right? Are you okay with that format, or…

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Yeah, I can see how, as we start working on this, we might say, oh, this should have probably gone into one.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Or maybe it needs to go into five or whatever, something.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: But you're gonna be thinking too, when you're reading mine, you're gonna say, we probably should move that to this section.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: And we can shorten it, we can shorten it that way. But yeah, I didn't, I guess I was writing it, so I didn't think of telling anybody what I was changing. I just wrote it, you know.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Because I did the whole thing, so…

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: But now you have the whole.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Different outline that I did. But all this stuff is in my outline.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: All of it.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: I just reworded it. And that's another thing, like, I had to think of…

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: How to work, how to phrase these.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Connecting it to them.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: So that's another reason why you'll see the words have changed. That's why I changed sovereignty of townspeople to the nature of sovereignty versus the nature of citizenship.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: And that whole first section is really talking about that sovereign citizen thing.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Remember, Brock, we talked about the sovereigns. I don't know. We want to talk about that sovereign citizen.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: to address it 100%.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: It's.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: 'Cause even like the last Thursday call, you know, Anna kept telling me, I'm sovereign, you're sovereign, you know? So we gotta talk about it because that's what everybody's hearing too. And we are sovereign, but what kind of sovereign are we?

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I'm sorry.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Don't go back one.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Can we go back one to the.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Yeah, this big one is it? Is it? Is it somewhere on here?

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Do we have on here somewhere?

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: How do I want to put this?

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Okay, we… are self-governing.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: It's not, you know how everybody keeps saying top down, there's no top down, but there is an order.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Okay, so nature operates in an order.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: If you don't have order. all you have is chaos, which is de facto. Okay, so du jour is order.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Are we a just like the sovereign citizen thing?

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: That we have to talk about.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: We must.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Addressed.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: the order because there's law and order.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Okay, so you have to do things in in order. Nature operates in an order. For example, there's the natural laws, for example, mentalism. And you know all the the different

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: natural laws. But then there's the order of nature.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Okay. And, and so, we all are familiar with.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I don't know, our family law, like what is the law of our home You know, and how do we operate in the home and everybody knows that you have to have like someone is handling the order of the day in the house to make sure everything's getting done, you know, the way it should be or whatever.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: So that's the same thing. We're owed an American style

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Our Republican form of government, we're owed an American-style Republican government, which is at the dinner table.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Right? How do you do that? Like a lot of people don't understand how you have order.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: without… without a boss.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And so I'll just leave everyone with this one thought, and then maybe someone's going to help us figure out how to articulate this.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: But, for example.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I'm not the boss of my family.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Okay? I want to honor the wishes of my son, my daughter, my husband, you know, we want to honor the wishes of everyone in the home.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: right? But it has to. There has to be some order in in which we do that, and we all have, you know, compromises and things that we make for each other. There's grace that we offer right?

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I mean, Louise, you've got a big family. You have a lot of experience in how to manage all of that.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I don't know what kind of experience Rocky has or what anybody else has, but

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: You know, without necessarily being the boss of.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: or I don't know if this is making sense, what I'm saying, like.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: I think, yeah, I think you should write it out.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: I think that can go either in two or three.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay. I would rather, I would think you would put it in three because you talked about law, that word came out your mouth a lot of times.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Law and order.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: your, and that sounds like an introduction actually to this section of how you want to lead the reader in the thought of law and order.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I was thinking the same thing, because as she's talking, I'm going, that fits right into her section of…

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: What is that?

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: that order of things, and… and what is the law of those things, you know what I'm saying? And how does it all interact, right?

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So it sounds like it would fit in there, but once you get it wrote and everything, then we can look at it, you know what I'm saying?

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But I agree, there is, I mean, it's just like, remember the diagram that you did, Luis, where it went from people, towns, counties, because that's kind of like an order to, you know, a law of things, you know, it's like the way things are really.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Work, right?

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But again, we have to spell it out in words on what that really means, right?

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Well, yeah, it's like the, the circle of life.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Right. You know, there's an order, you know, and then so the child asks.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: You know, what's the circle of life?

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: You know, but it is an unspoken thing, you know, that the frog eats the fly and the big fish eats the frog and, you know, or the bigger fish eats the smaller fish or whatever, right?

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: So there's there is a way in which there has to be like nature has an order, and we operate in that order. We have to operate in that order. So for people to come together.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: and be able to live in harmony. You know you can't have peace and harmony without some basic

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: lines drawn in the sand, right? Like, okay, that's your side, that's my side, or whatever.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Mmhm.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Right. I, I got you. All right. I, I wrote it down for the intro and, Hopefully.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, I think that that's gonna be good, Neeti. All that you're saying, that's gonna be good to help people conceive what we're saying.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Mmm.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That's why I like that, when you just said do an intro to it, because…

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That will actually set the stage of what we're talking about.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: True.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Now, your intro is part of your section. It doesn't have to be some whole sections, like I… like my… I have my key points. My intro is this section right here.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: That's my intro. And then I, you know…

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: I had to think of how I wanted people to think going into the rest of the reading. And that's what you're doing with your law and order. There's an order. That's how you want them to think to go into the rest of your reading.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: This is really my intro here, and then at the end is my conclusion.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: But I called it something else. I think it's the crux of the matter. That's my conclusion. So it's written like an intro, the body paragraphs, and the conclusion. I just didn't use the words intro and conclusion. I had it at first. I'm like, but nobody wants to say intro and conclusion. That's just general stuff.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Okay.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah. Okay.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, I'm gonna have to read through this. So it gives me good, some.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Yeah, thank you.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I'm gonna do.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Well, I appreciate your guidance on it because I'm telling you, this is not…

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: all this handbooks, that type stuff. I'm just. I hate writing sop type stuff.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: But.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I get to think about it, and I'll be more artistic in the way I write, but we'll see.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay. Any other, anything else that you, that's all I have for section one.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: That I've done.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Anything else y'all have for your sections you want to talk about today?

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: No, I just started getting into, you know, like my research. I did all my research.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And now I'm gonna start trying to put it together, but I wasn't really sure how I was gonna put it together, but you just gave me some good ideas there now.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So I'm gonna use those.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: some of that. That's why I want to read yours, too, so it'd give me some more ideas on how to structure it right.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Me too. I'm gonna be, but it'll be nice. That'll keep, help us keep it consistent with each other. We'll just use that as our baseline.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Now, When we talked earlier, too, about keeping it short.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I'm thinking that…

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It would be nice to try, but I would think that if we need to say something, just say it. I don't care how many pages it is.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Because if we leave something out, I'm thinking we're gonna be…

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, the people are gonna miss something, right?

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, I don't know, you know, if it ends up being 50 pages, leave it be 50 pages, you know what I'm saying? Agreed. If it's 100 pages, leave it at 100 pages. You know, if that's what it takes to say what we want to say.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I agree with you 100% Rocky. And the other part is, let us not forget the ultimate.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Publisher.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Who's gonna over, like, who's gonna actually read over it as Anna? And what better writer would we have to go over our stuff?

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Okay.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: She'll, she'll clean it up and she'll make it succinct, you know, she'll, she'll make it concise and succinct.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, it's one of the things is, as always says, always keep it short and sweet. But have you seen our articles lately?

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Three, four pages, some, some longer.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Well, she keep, she only, if she's using a lot of words, it's mandatory for her to do that, for her to make the lawful point. And so she does, she wants to keep things small, simple, easy.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And if there's a way to

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I don't think we should make any effort to do that. We should make every effort to be accurate.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, I think accuracy is the most important. Accuracy and complete. Don't leave the thoughts. Don't leave.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Yeah.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: fringes out there, pull it into the document so people can get the fuller picture. Because we're restructuring the whole thing.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: So I want them to have all the concepts there.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, one of the things my my English teacher used to tell me.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And, he, he used to say.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Say what you mean, mean what you say, write it as what you mean.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And don't leave anything out. So, basically, he was telling me that when I wrote stuff, don't abbreviate it, don't, you know, say it. You know, it's like, if you're talking about somebody and you're saying she, well, no, say neeti, or say, you know, mean what you're saying, right?

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And I think if we do that, then Anna will get the ideal, and then she would be able to shorten it to what it really would fit it to, you know what I'm saying?

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Well, I.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I think we're saying the same thing as far as that goes, but outside of that too, is this has to be actionable.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Right. The other thing that we need to be thinking about is, can I do that? Like, I'm saying whatever I'm saying on here.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: But if I can't do it.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I don't. I don't need to be writing that. I need to start over.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Mmhm.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: We're reworded, you know, basically, so it's doable, you know what I.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: And that's another thing I want you all to read into when you're doing the Section 1, because I wanted to… I want… we need… like, we need to say it so that the people can know what… know what they're doing.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: I wanted, I thought about saying some things that's relevant to what's going on in their lives and all this to make it, relevant.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: But I didn't, I don't think I got any of that in there. So listen.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: You don't think you made it relevant? Is that what you said?

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, relevant to a day-to-day thing. Like I was, I wanted to talk about, and I thought, well, maybe that's, that's for another section. I said, well, maybe that's for the town section or something.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Talking about sovereignty day to day? Is that?

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, yeah.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: your point.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Well.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Well, also, I don't know if you've done this in here yet, so I'm asking real quick, did you define Suveron versus Sovereign?

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: No.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Why not?

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: I don't know what Suvran is, and she doesn't discuss it in her articles. So and I heard you discuss it. So that would be your addition to the to that, element.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Okay.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: -H And that's another thing. I didn't want to bring in anything that I couldn't.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: that she didn't discuss that I couldn't really support. So I didn't know enough about that topic to talk about it.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: All right, I'm gonna be bringing in stuff that's not necessarily from Anna's articles, but things that she's referenced to me and things I've learned from.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And I will reference those things that might be outside of this a little bit.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: But only because she guided me towards it, not otherwise. And then, anyway, at the end, she's gonna be able to correct it, if it's wrong.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: So… I just wanted y'all to know that up front.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Mmh.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And the Souviron thing, I'll think about it and see how much to put in here, because Another…

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: we want it to be actionable, we need it to be day-to-day. I… how much… we should also make it so that our assemblies

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: are able to Guide the people who have never had.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: a life like this.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: To be able to know how to operate in a life like this.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, so.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: So.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Well, I think what we're doing, the guide that we're doing too, it should be done well enough that somebody coming into assembly and is learning should be able to read it and understand what it is that we're doing.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know what I.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Everybody's self-governing also, and so if they declare, I think this has to be accessible to them, just like the General Assembly Handbook.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: This book, this book is for the sovereign people, the people to start constructing their government. It's not for the assembly.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right. Because the assembly is the government.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Well, the other part of it is the people. There is no assembly without the people. And also, the people… Yeah, we have to hammer this into everybody's head, that you're trying to use the assembly as a weapon, because that's what they're doing.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: and a control mechanism. They're using it as a control functionality, or, you know.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Well, aside from that, the guidebook is to guide Joe Blow.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: into reconstructing the government that's missing.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: That we are owed, but it's our job to do it.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Well, exercising his standing, which is what is required because if all the people were exercising their standing, then it would anyway naturally fall into this.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And that's the bigger part of it, really.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: And just a little heads up on comments about how Anna's gonna make it succinct. She's not.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: And doing the detailed research.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: I had done an introduction. It was 4 pages long.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: I sent it to her… no, it was a preface. I sent it to her, now it's 8 pages long.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Well, she, that's what I'm trying to say is if she, if it needs to be shorter, she will. And if she needs to make it bigger, she will. And whatever it is, we need it to be real.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, she generally won't scratch out anything you say unless it's wrong. She's not gonna just make it shorter because she can say it better. She don't do the say better stuff. She just say what needs to be said.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Yeah, she's not gonna say better. But this, if we're saying we're publishing it, we're writing it with her.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: That's my encouragement for us. You guys have to tell me if we're doing that or not. But I think that we need to say to her, we're writing this with you.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Mmhm And well, she may not get to it, so we'll have to decide on that too.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Oh, she'll get to it 'cause I'm gonna ask her. I This makes me…

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That was the reason why I said that Neeti should be the one, because you've already been doing this kind of stuff with her.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I think she would more likely work with you to do it than to try to work with all of us, right?

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: She wants to have instructional books, Louise.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Mmm.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Everybody has different skills and talents.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: She never wanted to be the teacher.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: She never wanted to be the in charge of all of this other.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: These are not things that she wanted to do.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: She's the one who writes and enforces the notices. She wasn't really trying to do all this other stuff.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And how she got roped into doing that is the problem.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: So you're not wrong about the fact that she's not a good manager of things, or this or that, because she wasn't trying to do that anyway.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Mmhm.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: You know?

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The problem, the problem is, is that.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: No.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: getting people to do it is tough, and a lot of times, it's easier to do it, and that's what Anna's getting into. She's realizing that she's trying to do all the

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Legal part of it, or lawful part of it, you know, trying to get the de facto to stand down and all that, and trying to get people to stand up and do this, and nobody's doing it, right?

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Well, nobody's doing it because they're not letting our voices go to the actual people and the people that are there are not being honest. And then so all the ones that are there are just brainwashed because they think this is the only thing. Like, look at Michelle Ford.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Are we.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I'm zero.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: We're recording now.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Yes.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, there'.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: So I compensated.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I think we're done with this part of.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: So.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, anything else about how we want to do this? I think, I think, so what we're going to do now is I'm going to send over all of my PDFs and docs, doc forms, and you all can work on, you know, editing them, and

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Waiting for your inspiration for your sections.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: And start writing notes.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: And we'll work on one solid one, send to Anna, and then send over it. I'll send y'all my inspirations as I get them.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: For you all's section.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Mmhm.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I want to say one last thing, too, is.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You got the… the graphics I've made, Vector?

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Turn them into vector graphics.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Which one of those?

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You, you sent us, documents, and you said these need to be in vector?

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: warm.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: You send him those images, those, those, those charts or whatever, and he.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh!

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Okay.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: So I don't remember saying they needed to be in vector form. I was wondering, what is he talking about?

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Well, if you read… if you read the document that you sent us.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Inside the document, it was in some red that said, these need to be in vector format.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Well, they're gonna.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh, those…

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: format for printing when we get ready to actually publish the book or whatever.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up, because I wanted to ask that question about images. But I said it needed to be in vector format based on that document. We wasn't writing that document, though. That was just a document, though.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I didn't know if we needed it or not, so I went ahead and made them Becker.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: I saw those, yeah. I don't know if we'll use them. So yeah, I saw them. And that's the question too I had. Do we want images? Because it's gonna add, you know, add more.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: I like having images, because it tells the picture, you know, it tells the story better, you know? But it'll make it longer, you have to think about that, but…

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Why are we so hard? Why are we trying to make this smaller?

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Well, people who want to print stuff and pay for printing of stuff cares about how many pages they're printing.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Look, I'm not producing an informational guide of this level, this grandeur, and being concerned about somebody being able to afford paper and ink. I can't care about that at all.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Either they're going to print it or they're not. And also when you are printing things, you can be selective about what pages you're printing and what pages you're not.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But, and to me, talking about images.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I think images, give you more of a… like a…

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I don't know what you call it, like a fuzzy or You're kind of like…

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: breaks up just the reading, you know what I'm saying, when you have images in it.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I agree that images are important because they, I don't, it's not about breaking it up and making it warm and fuzzy as much as it is about the fact that sometimes you read something and you're trying to process it, but being able to see it drawn out.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: just helps to clean that up for a lot of folks, and some people only receive charts and images

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: You know.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: for them to really be able to comprehend what it is like. I think it was important for a lot of folks

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: to see. I don't know. I don't like the I don't like the 4 pillars, and I don't like that steering wheel thing either. But whatever somebody wanted a picture.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: of how these things work, and sometimes those images work, and sometimes they don't.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But again, I think we need to stay away from the words pillars.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I think symbols or something is what? Because that's remember, Anne has always said, we're we're a government of of

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: committees.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, I mean, we can use committees or assemblies, but I don't like the word pillars.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I like circles and groups. And she also said that we should do things in circles and not lines.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And the other thing that she also said, I mean, I don't know how many people realize this, there's… everybody else made the pillars, Rocky, not Anna, and… or somebody else's idea was the pillars, or whatever, but that's very corporate-minded. It's absolutely Roman.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: So I'll just throw that out there for y'all Oh.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Well, so if that is all.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: That… is that all, you guys?

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I'm.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I agree, I agree. Hey, thank you so much for this great meeting today.

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: You are so welcome, and I'm glad you're feeling better. I'm sitting here this whole while saying, don't talk so much, just don't talk, rest your mouth.

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Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, I.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I didn't talk for, well, can we stop the recording first?

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Louise Campbell-Anthony: All right.